Featured article

Hey there. I noticed you nominated Manny Ramirez for the next featured article. I've approved it. But could you do me a favor and create some of the red links in the article. It won't look good on the main page if it's red. By the way, it's strange how nobody has talked to you before on your talk page. Just wanted to say great job around the wiki. I'm the new administrator and bureaucrat at BaseballWiki. If you ever need my assistance, you can always ask on my talk page. Thanks, RyanCross (talk) 17:44, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

So I've noticed... it seems User:GrimGary has been inactive. So when ever your finished with the Manny Ramirez article (too bad he has been traded.. I'm a Red Sox fan) just tell me and I'll get the main page updated! By the way, whenever you leave a message on a talk page, don't forget to sign your comment at the end with ~~~~ or you can click the signature icon (Signature icon) to add the four tildes to sign your posts for you. -- RyanCross (talk) 17:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Oh, heh, you do know how to sign. Never mind. So tell me when your finished. -- RyanCross (talk) 17:54, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Looks great! At least not as red as last time. I'll be updating the main page soon. I was wondering if you know what administrators do? Do you know how to use the tools? Because I was thinking of making you an administrator. But you have to tell me that you know how to use the tools first. If you don't know, I suppose I can do some coaching on you about it. But this is all up to you if you would like to become an administrator or not. Thanks, RyanCross (talk) 19:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Hm, I do trust that you will do good, but I think we should start out small by starting with the rollback tool. Administrators have the rollback tool. I think you should start out with the rollback tool before adminship. It'll get you able to learn a bit of the extra bottoms. For extra information, you can read this. It says to use rollback for only vandalism, but here, I think you can use it whenever. Is that okay with you? If you have questions, just ask me. -- RyanCross (talk) 19:27, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Yup! If you want, I can give you adminship permissions on Anarchy Wiki, a test wiki where anyone can test admin tools. Just create an account there and I'll give you the tools so you can practice with them there. Oh, and the featured article of the month has been updated. :) -- RyanCross (talk) 20:03, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Hm, I'll be thinking about it. In the meantime, continue your good work! By the way, is it possible that we can try to revise our articles a bit? A lot of them are just copies from Wikipedia. -- RyanCross (talk) 16:16, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
That's great to here. I'll be working on some projectspace stuff. Hm, it seems me and you are the only active users here. Do you have any friends you know of who can help with this wiki? -- RyanCross (talk) 15:28, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Main page design

Heh, funny how we became online at the same time. :P Anyway, I was wondering if you thought the main page should be redesigned. -- RyanCross (talk) 01:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. Anyway, I'm not so sure at the moment. I was just thinking that it should be redesigned. IMO, I don't necessarily like the current design very much and I don't feel it is very interesting. A good main page design attracts new readers and contributers. So the main page is actually a really important part of the wiki. What do you think? -- RyanCross (talk) 02:49, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Sounds like a good idea. I could try to do that. None of the sections currently on the main page have been updated except the featured article section. The main page certainly needs updating at the moment. -- RyanCross (talk) 02:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

BaseballWiki --> Baseballpedia

I was thinking, what do you think of moving "BaseballWiki" to "Baseballpedia"? The URL will always be the same, "", but project space pages, such as "BaseballWiki:Administrators", be moved to "Baseballpedia:Administrators". I like the name "Baseballpedia" much better than "BaseballWiki". Also, there is too much confusion in some of our pages: Is it "The Baseball Wiki" or "BaseballWiki"? If we stick with "Baseballpedia", we can easily decide the name of the wiki. What do you think? -- RyanCross (talk) 22:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Great! I'll get to it. Oh, and I've been thinking, and I'll be happy to make you an administrator now. I'm pretty sure you'll be fine with it, but I just want to make sure. Thanks, RyanCross (talk) 03:33, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Okay, I'll do so right away. Oh, and can you do me a favor? If you come across a page that says "BaseballWiki" anywhere, change it to "Baseballpedia". That includes page names and page text. Oh, and if you move a page like, say BaseballWiki:Administrators to Baseballpedia:Administrators, don't delete BaseballWiki:Administrators just yet. Got it? -- RyanCross (talk) 03:51, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

<-- Congratulations, you are now an administrator! If you ever need help using the tools or if you have any questions about administrators or being an administrator, feel free to ask. I suggest reading the administrator policy and maybe the bureaucrat policy before using the tools. Thanks, RyanCross (talk) 03:55, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

I see your deleting those non-notable pages. Good catch! I've warned the creator. Another non-notable creating will result in a block. Good job with that, your doing just fine. :-) -- RyanCross (talk) 04:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Just like to say I've been an admin on an other wiki for years, and if you have any questions you can also ask me! Cheers! KnowledgeIsSelf | talk. 04:12, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Vandal templates

Hey there, I've been creating templates for use on this wiki. I'll show you some of the basic ones used for vandalism. {{BV}} (For use for vandals who are malicious and will only get one warning {{test1}} (A friendly request to not vandalize - for new user tests and the such) {{test2}} (Much the same as test one) {{Test3}} (A more stern warning to stop vandalizing) {{Test4}} (A last warning much like the bv template before). If you have any detailed questions about these please don't hesitate to ask. KnowledgeIsSelf | talk. 05:08, 7 August 2008 (UTC)


I'm not very good at coding when making or editing infoboxes. It's pretty hard, Maybe asking User:KnowledgeIsSelf? He might be able to figure it out. -- RyanCross (talk) 18:16, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I really don't have time on my hands at the moment, so it might be a few days before I can really look at it. Even then I can make no promises. Cheers. KnowledgeIsSelf | talk. 07:57, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


Hi there. The featured article update should be coming up soon. Don't forget to nominate an article! Thanks, and good job around here. ;) By the way, if it seems your the only one active, your really not. I'm around everyday actually. If you need my, just edit my talk page and I'll receive email about it so I'll come ASAP. Anyway, cheers! -- RyanCross (talk) 06:56, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

I've approved Yankee Stadium for our next featured article, but it could use an image. Could you upload an image of Yankee Stadium so it can be displayed on the Main Page? Thanks, RyanCross (talk) 04:54, 1 September 2008 (UTC)


This month's featured article is now updated. Could you upload this image? It's the best image I could find that can also go on the Main Page with the featured article. Thanks. – RyanCross (talk) 06:15, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Regarding Ron Liebman

People impersonated Ron on Wikipedia and imitated his entries. They tried to give Ron a bad name. You can contact nearly anyone in SABR and they will indicate that Ron is the real thing. He mentioned the Wikipedia nonsense (mostly by Baseball Bugs, Wknight94, Ebyabe, No Guru, and Georgewilliamherbert) at the last 2 national SABR Conventions. Ron has gone to a record 36 consecutive national conventions. I am one of many SABR members who admire Ron. --Ted ditullio 23:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC). My e-mail account is . --Ted ditullio 00:00, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Featured article, etc.

Hello, nice to see you.

I think from now we can just go ahead and update the featured article without having to vote upon which one should be used. We don't have many active users, so just be bold and update FA whenever ready. Sounds good? Thanks. And yes, I'm still around watching the wiki several times a week, I just don't really edit as I'm busy elsewhere. RyanCross @ 23:34, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I know, I got an e-mail about it. If something I've watchlisted is edited, I get e-mailed about it. Good work. RyanCross @ 23:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Hey, do you know anyone who has the power to make the Mariners wiki a sister of this wiki? --Vercool Talk To Me! 16:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Done. — RyanCross (talk) 16:49, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Ron liebman

This is Ron Liebman. I feel that I have made many constructive contributions to Baseball Wikia. WK94 (who trouble for me on the regular Wikipedia - where people were impersonating me) is now trying to make trouble for me and to disrupt my edits on this site. I suggest that you reprimand him. I am a well-respected baseball researcher since the 1960's. Sincerely, Ron Liebman --ron 16:21, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Funny stuff. Ron Liebman's record on enwiki is quite well known. He was proven by checkuser to have created hundreds of sockpuppets there, using the names of numerous SABR members (including Ted DiTullio on this very page!) and for almost two years now has been harassing several editors there mercilessly. Here, he has continued his original trend of inserting falsehoods and doubtful information as well as self-promtion. Of course now he is edit warring here which he's been doing there off and on for almost two years. He has been run off English Wikipedia as well as Baseball Reference Bullpen where they became so exasperated that they cemented his biography like this: (if you can do a checkuser, you'll recognize some of the IP addresses in the page's history). Looks like another site he has infected is at Fair warning! WK94 17:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
Wow, can you believe it? The Rick Dempsey has appeared to support Mr. Liebman's edits and re-add him to the list of notable SABR members![1] That is such an honor, don't you think? *wink wink*. Coincidentally, Mr. Dempsey was checkuser-confirmed as a sock of Mr. Liebman and blocked at enwiki[2] but I'm sure that's a mistake of some sort. *wink wink*. WK94 19:53, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
Well, it may simply be a question of taking the good with the bad. If you're good with him forcing his name into whatever context he wants, and adding facts so obscure that I didn't even realize what he was talking about, then you're going have to accept the bad - that he's going to edit from a whole variety of different sources:
  1. Ron liebman (talk · contribs)
  2. Rick Dempsey (talk · contribs)
  3. Ted ditullio (talk · contribs)
  4. (talk · contribs)
  5. (talk · contribs)
  6. (talk · contribs)
  7. maybe DNL (talk · contribs)?
I see issues that caused problems at enwiki - like Chief Bender's birth date - have been handled here quietly with a little footnote. Liebman would not let things lie like that at enwiki. Instead, he fought and fought like an injured wolverine to keep his edits in place - with no footnote. If he's changed and mellowed and you are able to exist with him here, then more power to you. If you cross him, the list above will triple in just days. But don't worry, I won't instigate any further. It's your project, not mine. WK94 22:38, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Could you do me a favor and ask Mr. Liebman to stop nonsense like this? I'm happy to leave him to do his thing here but not if he's going to keep it up there. Thank you. WK94 19:11, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

user page help

Hey how do you put those info card like things on your user page that say for example "I am a red sox fan"?


That was me who left the message about the user page help.14:12, 21 June 2009 (UTC)Orioles8


WK94 (a/k/a/ Wknight94) is at it again. I am not guilty of the sockpuppetry and impersonation he accuses me of on the regular Wikipedia. It is obviously an imitator. I haven't made entries there in a couple of years. I am considered a prominent researcher in SABR and I have long been reinstated in BBRef/Bullpen after a misunderstanding. I hope that you ignored WK94. Thank you. Ron Liebman, 6/29/2009. WK94 is not a SABR member and he does not know who the top researchers are. It is a matter of record that I have attended 36 consecutive annual national conventions (#37 next month) and I have made significant contributions (undisputably) to may SABR committees. I hope that this matter is at rest. --ron 17:52, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Impersonating you from your same IP addresses? That's a neat trick indeed. So say checkusers at Wikipedia. Look, all I am asking is for you to leave people alone at Wikipedia. It's a waste of everyone's time including your own. You have virtually free reign here and at Baseball-ref (where now I see your block expired after a year - not where a misunderstanding occurred and you were reinstated). Why spend your valuable researching time harassing people at Wikipedia? WK94 18:00, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
And if you are so innocent, Ron, then why has the abuse filter log dedicated to you suddenly gone crazy today?[3] Another coincidence? WK94 19:31, 30 June 2009 (UTC) I won't even dignify that comment with an answer! --ron 19:44, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

The nonsensical intrusions from WK94 (a/k/a Wknight94) must cease or I will have to stop editing Baseball.Wikia. I am not guilty of what he says I am on the other site. It must be an imitator. Please tell WK94 to cease and desist immediately. I am not an idiot - but a highly regarded baseball researcher woth a resume dating back to the late 1960's = and I heped mold SABR (back in the 1970's) into the respected research organization it has become. This reminds me of some of the abuse directed as Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor! --ron 15:58, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

WK94 feels he can suit his childish tastes by eliminating my name wherever it appears in the body of an article. I have beenconsidered a prominent researcher since the late 1960's - even before SABR (organized in 1971 with my joining one year later), --ron 16:01, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


Oh, ye of many faces... You apologize to me from one side of your mouth, while bad-talking me from the other. Your new article on Liebman says he attended a lot of SABR conferences. That makes him notable enough that his name should be sprinkled all over? Did he even speak at them? Or contribute anything? Or did he sit there and eat free cake? Or do you have some other proof of his notability? Would you like some proof that the Baseball Ref Bullpen article is also factual? That he has not only created hundreds of accounts but used some of them to make downright creepy edits? Like "Carl j. hafner" who edit wars trying to get a male genitalia reference into a game-playing article[4] and then repeats known Liebman baseball edits[5]. Note the numerous 149.4.106.x and 149.4.108.x IPs making the same edits - a range he used for a year or more there and similar to at least one here[6]. Need some edit pattern proof? I can give you that off-line. In general, don't be fooled by him. He offers no proof for his claims but leaves a very visible evidence trail for mine. WK94 14:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Your friend at it again: [7]. Checkuser confirmed if that makes you feel any better. I really hope you are checking the validity of all his edits here, because they never pan out there... WK94 15:15, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

-- Thanks --

Thanks for your support. I am a useful participant in the SABR Conventions and considered one of its go-to guys and most reliable and accurate researchers. I am glad to help improve Baseball.wikia . -- Ron Liebman, 7/15/2009. --ron 23:49, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

And yet you still find time for this crap? How ever do you do it? WK94 23:05, 22 July 2009 (UTC)


Hey Ive noticed you do quite a bit of work around here and am looking to help out and edit or create some pages. I am kind of new to this stuff and was wondering what suggestions you have or if you have any special requests for me to look into. Thanks. Mattj34 03:11, 21 July 2009 (UTC)mattj34Mattj34 03:11, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back

Welcome back to the site. I was getting a bit lonely over the last month and a half. I hope that you like my entries. SABR decided to advertise this website on its list of "Baseball Resources" and to install it as a link. Many baseball fans (in and out of SABR) have praised this website. One thing I hope is that you establish pages for the players listed in my "top 500" who don't yet have their own pages. Anyway, nice to see that you are back. (I attended my record 37th consecutive annual national SABR convention in Washington, D.C.) this year. Sincerely, --ron 21:35, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Congrats, Ron - or should I call you Sun Chu? Sun Chu and yourself have decided that you know how to pronounce Ed Cicotte's last name than his own nephew! That is just uncanny. It is fortunate that SABR added a link to such knowledge and that its most modest member would add such a link: [8]. WK94 22:46, October 1, 2009 (UTC)
The reason I spent so much time away is that I got sick of the stupid politics. Glad to see they're still going on. I haven't researched the situation, but can this guy verify that he is Cicotte's nephew, or are you just trying to smear Liebman, this time for doing exactly what you've been doing on Wikipedia, that is, removing unverifiable information that runs contrary to most other sources. Maybe the best situation would be to note a controversy on the page, rather than acting like children. I'm just saying. Can't we all just get along? --Youk4MVP (Talk) 03:50, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
You would have to ask him if he can verify his identity. He also appeared on the Wikipedia talk page for Ed Cicotte but no one has responded there yet. You can also mark that page as controversial here. I don't edit here since the only admin on the site takes the side of someone like Liebman. And paints "removing unverifiable information" as a negative thing. You're unlikely to gain any contributors with logic like that. Hopefully Liebman - or Sun Chu or Rick Dempsey or whoever he is today - can keep this site running. WK94 12:28, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is Ron Liebman. I am 100% certain that it is (Cy-cottie). Several Hall of Fame announcers & writers in the 1950's throuigh 1970's confirmed the pronunciation (They were around when Eddie Cicotte pitched) and SABR accepts it. The is a footnote and cross-reference on Wikipedia itself (not involving me or anyone I know who know me) confirming this. I found that some names, like Koenig, Maranville, Gehringer, and Lajoie have alternate pronunciations but Cicotte was (Cy-cottie). SABR accepted all my expanations after studying Baseball.wikia and adevrtised and linked the site - as well as discouraging SABR members from making entries in the regular Wikipedia after what I went through. Even if "Rcicotte" is related to Eddie Cicotte, he is wrong. I have been a respected SABR memberf since 1972 and they have backed my accounts of what went on with Wikipedia. I have won several research and trivia awards in SABR ane been a finalist for others - besides attending a record 37 consecutive national conventions which I have actively participated in. SABR may get its own Wikipedia in the future - but I will continue with Baseball.wikia if "WK94" (a/k/a Wknight94) doesn't start to do damage here. My entry here on "Cy-cottie" has been unchallenged for more that 2 years. I hope this clears it up. If further change is made by "Rcicotte" or "WK94," the article should be locked down like some others were for a while. Sincerely, Ron Liebman. (Note: My e-mail is ronliebman.stats& . PS- Rick Dempsey is a respected SABR member and not a sockpuppet of mine. He resents the intrusion. He's attended 18 consecutive nationals. --ron 18:27, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

This is Ron Liebman. The article "1929" has been targeted with vandalism, profanity, and silliness the last 2 days, under IP's starting with 173... and 151... My recent entries (mostly death dates) have not been disturbed. Thanks for your attention. --ron 18:06, October 14, 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation

Did you realize that your practice of simply copying word-for-word the contents of Wikipedia without attribution is actually violating their copyright? See I've found two of your new articles doing that and I imagine I would find many more if I kept looking. Please explain. WK94 14:33, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes my mind wanders and I forget to include the {{Wikipedia}} tag. You could feel free to add it if you catch one, if you want to be productive. --Youk4MVP (Talk) 17:57, October 16, 2009 (UTC)

== Vandalism of the "Top 500 Players Ever"

Someone has repeatedly been vandalizing the "top 500 players list" and iserting the name "Andrew McCutchen" (a Pittsburgh Pirates prospect) as #1 on the list under the IP# . He obviously should be blocked. I will stick to my list of "500 at least through the 2010 season - but sometimes I may add an fielding postion to some guys (as I did with Frankie Frisch). Sincerely, Ron Liebman, 11/7/2009


I m not trying to vandalize. When i tried to insert a Manny Ramírez image it became screwed up. --Knightrez 07:10, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

NBA wiki

Yo! could you please add NBA wiki to the affliates list? thx! --Knightrez 06:03, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

== Note from Ron Liebman == I just want to notify you that I will still be around and involved in Baseball.Wikia in the months and years ahead. I have been battling some health problems (including a hospital stay) tah are not life threatening but have been slowing me down of late. For the time being I will only be making an accasional entry (edit) - mostly in articles I am watching. Later in the year, health permitting, I will assume a large role. I will be attending my record 38th consecutive National SABR Convention in Atlanta in August. Best wishes to you and the guys. Sincerely, Ron Liebman 4/11/2010

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